Clemens just reached Pete Rose level

How the heck are you going to be arrested for disorderly conduct during a game?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Monkeyhead</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Cocaine does not build muscles like DECA. Not the best two to compare. </div></div>


Agree BUT the arguement was made that it was cheating becouse it was an illeagle substance even if it was not banned by MLB

We are talking about stuff that gives you a competitive edge, but heck I say ban them too for getting caught using that stuff I don't have a problem with it.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: PVFAN</div><div class="ubbcode-body">But he cheated to achieve it. </div></div>


If he took em than hes just a juiced pitcher pitching against juiced hitters...evens the playing field

Not everyone is on the juice.

Id say there is tons more than we think but just havent got caugght

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 1inStripes</div><div class="ubbcode-body">How the heck are you going to be arrested for disorderly conduct during a game? </div></div>
Spitters, in Rose's day were SPITBALL throwers [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif[/img]...sorry.

I won't disagree abuot there being a bunch that have not been caught. I am saying you can't say all of them have juiced. If so then we would have to include Smoltz, Glavin, Maddux, Sandberg, Murphy, and many others.

Maybe one or two of them have...its not impossible....i mean we wouldnt have known about if if some guy wouldnt have said anything...how do we know there wont be any more mcnamees to come forward? btw i know theres a lot of evidence pointing to clemens but i just dont believe a guy like mcnamee, i mean he could be tellling the truth here but he's lied so much...i just think he wants that 15 min of fame

I don't think it is so much the fame as it is the anal pounding he would recieve in the pokey.